I get more and more disappointed with some of the Oakley revamps and new models. A lot of plastic and nothing exciting anymore imho. One of the biggest disappointments 'recently' has been the Pit Boss Elite generation 2. The coolest thing (in my humble opinion) about the first generation Pit Bosses was the hexagon O-icon and now they have replaced that by a cheap icon used for many other models. I can't believe Oakley is getting so complacent and just wanted to get rid of my frustration here. Let me know what you think!

It might be the Elite lineup is dead, hence the ellipse icon (no official confirmation yet, though). I hope not, but we'll see.

I'm disappointed in the pricing. The first PB was crazy outrageously priced, but the PBII even more so due to having even less titanium (and presumably thinner O Matter). Cool design that wears well, however.

Aside frim the icon I think bith generation boxes are still the same

Yea, I agree, both the PB and PBII were/are over priced. In my view, it was the popularity of the Ducati and Tron special editions that saved the reputation of the original PB, otherwise the model as a whole wouldn't be nearly as popular.

Overpriced for sure but so are all O's if you have a critical look at them. Now as for the quality of the materials and the feel of the glasses in their entirety I really think the PBII feels more plasticallly and made in China than the original PB.

That was the general feeling from when the initial pictures were discovered. I don't think the PBII is all that bad, it's just, again, the price point that hurts it. Moreso now that the elite status has been removed.

And without any real knowledge, I'm willing to bet something like this happened. The Pit Boss was supposed to be limited. When the run was extended, people got upset at that too. Then with the fall of the entire Elite line, they couldn't very well keep one model going, so they retooled the glasses slightly, put the elliptical icon back on, and now that will be the standard release until sales dictate that something else will prove better.

I'd bet that if they reduced the price down to $200 where it should be, people would complain that they were swindled into buy the original. It's lose/lose with some of these things.

That was the general feeling from when the initial pictures were discovered. I don't think the PBII is all that bad, it's just, again, the price point that hurts it. Moreso now that the elite status has been removed.

And without any real knowledge, I'm willing to bet something like this happened. The Pit Boss was supposed to be limited. When the run was extended, people got upset at that too. Then with the fall of the entire Elite line, they couldn't very well keep one model going, so they retooled the glasses slightly, put the elliptical icon back on, and now that will be the standard release until sales dictate that something else will prove better.

I'd bet that if they reduced the price down to $200 where it should be, people would complain that they were swindled into buy the original. It's lose/lose with some of these things. - Dann

I would have to agree with this sentiment. It is hard to start too high and come down, people will flip out. There would be a lot of pissed off owners for sure.

Now as for the quality, I have handled tons of PB 1, and several PB 2. The 2 is far more flexible, much more of the Chinese type O Matter where it is springy feeling, and the mounting is much more custom friendly (screws instead of posts). I don't particularly care for the Unobtanium trim on it, but that's just me. Honestly, unless it is a sport specific frame, it doesn't belong. The titanium isn't really less so to speak, but it is lighter. I mean you see less on the stems, but there is more on the backside balancing it out...The fit is however, leaps and bounds better. No more headaches within 45 minutes of wear.

PB 1, it was terrible in fit. Horrible headaches, heavy, and just not great as one would expect. That could be a reason for killing it as well. Over priced is an understatement by a LONG SHOT. The X Metals had more going into to manufacturing and materials and cost half as much. Sure, they added the 50 cent storage box from China, and while it was nice for presentation, didn't equate for damn near double pricing the shades. Sure, we all ate them up, but the secondary market showed what true pricing should have been in the $300-$400 range and special editions at what normal retail was. Just another move they have made that didn't make sense.

I do like the hex icon though. Really sad that if in fact the elite lineup is history, that icon is with it. Could really have been a new opportunity for them to push a new line like the stretch, square o, and so on.

If the PB 1 or 2 was in the $200 range I'd probably own a few.

The only reason I didn't pick up the 2 is the damn $600 price tag. More like $450 from non-standard retail shops, but still a hard pill to swallow.

Here in the Sunglass Hut the last units of PIt boss 1 the price was 200 Euros